June 17

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Wars may be fought with weapons, but they are won by men. It is the spirit of men who follow and of the man who leads that gains the victory.
George S. Patton
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Quotes of the day from previous years:
Love loves to love love. ~ James Joyce in Ulysses
  • selected by Kalki (selected on the 100th "anniversary" of Bloomsday, but a day late to mark the "centennial" celebrations themselves...)
I observed, "Love is the fulfilling of the law, the end of the commandment." It is not only "the first and great" command, but all the commandments in one. "Whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, if there be any virtue, if there be any praise," they are all comprised in this one word, love. ~ John Wesley (born 17 June 1703 — but this was in Old Style reckonings, actually 28 June by the modern Gregorian calendar)
Some would say that it is too idealistic to believe in a society based on tolerance and the sanctity of human life, where borders, nationalities and ideologies are of marginal importance. To those I say, this is not idealism, but rather realism, because history has taught us that war rarely resolves our differences. Force does not heal old wounds; it opens new ones. ~ Mohamed ElBaradei (born 17 June 1942)
Nothing you do, however many of us you kill, will stop that flight to our cities where freedom is strong and where people can live in harmony with one another. Whatever you do, however many you kill, you will fail. ~ Ken Livingstone (born 17 June 1945)
Our security strategies have not yet caught up with the risks we are facing. The globalization that has swept away the barriers to the movement of goods, ideas and people has also swept with it barriers that confined and localized security threats. ~ Mohamed ElBaradei (born June 17, 1942)


We must abandon the unworkable notion that it is morally reprehensible for some countries to pursue weapons of mass destruction, yet morally acceptable for others to rely on them for security - and indeed to continue to refine their capacities and postulate plans for their use. Wikipedia:Mohamed_ElBaradei - Birthday

  • Liquidice5 14:51, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
  • 2 Kalki 20:16, 16 June 2006 (UTC) A good quote, but I believe the others below are better ones.
  • 3 Jeff Q (talk) 23:32, 16 June 2006 (UTC). I'm embarrassed that my country is the world's most obvious transgressor in this matter, and that many of my fellow citizens cannot seem to comprehend the hypocrisy. How are we any better than the terrible nationalists in any other nation, in any other time in history? Oh, yeah — because we're right. Sigh.
  • 3 InvisibleSun 21:04, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
  • 1 Zarbon 23:29, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Whether one believes in evolution, intelligent design, or Divine Creation, one thing is certain. Since the beginning of history, human beings have been at war with each other, under the pretext of religion, ideology, ethnicity and other reasons. And no civilization has ever willingly given up its most powerful weapons. We seem to agree today that we can share modern technology, but we still refuse to acknowledge that our values — at their very core — are shared values. ~ Mohamed ElBaradei (born June 17, 1942)

  • 3 Kalki 20:16, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
  • 2 Jeff Q (talk) 23:32, 16 June 2006 (UTC). Mostly true, but there are enough unshared values, particularly between the chaotic freedom of democracy and the cruel stability of authoritarianism, to start those wars easily.
  • 3 InvisibleSun 21:04, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
  • 1 Zarbon 23:29, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

The global community has become irreversibly interdependent, with the constant movement of people, ideas, goods and resources. In such a world, we must combat terrorism with an infectious security culture that crosses borders — an inclusive approach to security based on solidarity and the value of human life. In such a world, weapons of mass destruction have no place. ~ Mohamed ElBaradei (born June 17, 1942)

  • 3 Kalki 20:16, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
  • 2 Jeff Q (talk) 23:32, 16 June 2006 (UTC). 'Tis but a noble dream, Mr. ElBaradei.
  • 3 InvisibleSun 21:04, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
  • 1 Zarbon 23:29, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Films and gramophone records, music, books and buildings show clearly how vigorously a man's life and work go on after his death, whether we feel it or not, whether we are aware of the individual names or not. There is no such thing as death according to our view! ~ Martin Bormann (born June 17)

  • 4 because death is never an end, and life will always continue in memories. Zarbon 04:17, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
  • 2 Kalki 23:03, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
  • 2 InvisibleSun 23:19, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

We have severely underestimated the Russians, the extent of the country and the treachery of the climate. This is the revenge of reality. ~ Heinz Guderian (born June 17)

  • 3 because the mistake of Napoleon was the same as evidenced here, the power of Russia's winter was unparalleled. Zarbon 04:38, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
  • 2 Kalki 23:03, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
  • 3 InvisibleSun 23:19, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

You hit somebody with your fist and not with your fingers spread. ~ Heinz Guderian (born June 17)

  • 3 because this is a good comparison between tank attacks and actual fighting. Zarbon 06:47, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
  • 2 Kalki 23:03, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
  • 1 InvisibleSun 23:19, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

We live in a beautiful and orderly world, not in a chaos without norms, as we sometimes seem to. ~ M. C. Escher

My work is a game, a very serious game. ~ M. C. Escher

The result of the struggle between the thought and the ability to express it, between dream and reality, is seldom more than a compromise or an approximation. ~ M. C. Escher